Law Enforcement: Death of Florida Student Forced to Become a Snitch Sparks Protests in Tallahassee

courtesy FSU NORML
Tallahassee police have been on the defensive since Hoffman's murder last week. Various law enforcement spokesmen have attempted to blame Hoffman for her death by arguing she didn't follow proper informant procedures.
But the protestors at the capitol weren't buying it. They criticized both Tallahassee police behavior in sending Hoffman out to buy cocaine and a gun, but they also leveled strong criticisms at the informant system in general.
"What we're trying to do is make sure TPD is accountable for their actions," Matthew Zimmerman, vice president of the Florida State University chapter of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, told the Tallahassee Democrat.

courtesy FSU NORML
"TPD had Rachel Hoffman going into a situation she had no place being in, just because she was associated with marijuana," said Rachel Lillibridge.
Zimmerman added, "I don't think two wrongs make a right. To make someone who's been convicted rat out someone else to get their sentence lessened is the right thing to do, I think everyone should be treated according to the law."
Two men have been arrested in Hoffman's death and are expected to be charged with murder shortly. But for many in Tallahassee, the shooters aren't the only guilty parties.
legal gangs
Comment posted by Anonymous on Fri, 05/16/2008 - 10:43amThe police force has become nothing but a legal gang, supported by our own government. I know I do not feel safe when I see a police officer. It is no longer about public safety but about FUNDING. Pigs want new cars, new gear, and new headquarters. If you look at the statistics in major cities accross the US police actually create crime. Think about it police are like taxes - they never go down! Police our government workers and rarely does the government downsize. Schools not Prisons!!! Our government is not a government for the people. I hope those in Tallahassee wake up and make those police accountable!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am a tax paying citizen who loves America, but i hate cops!!! Cops treat everyone like crap when its everyones tax $$$$ Paying for there salary!!! Fing BullShix Man!
"Off the Pigs"
Comment posted by Anonymous on Fri, 05/16/2008 - 1:37pmA quote that was often seen as graffiti on walls during the tumultuous 1960s. I must admit, whenever I learn of police officers being killed while enforcing drugs laws, I chuckle, grin, and celebrate the loss of one of the enemies of the people's "inalienable right" to "pursue happiness". It makes me cringe when I read of all the sympathy and out pouring of respect for slain officers while there's never so much as a peep of outrage from the media when innocent civilians are murdered in raids and instances such as above.
Amerika is a nation with a ``government of the people, BY THE GOVERNMENT, FOR THE GOVERNMENT.'' The myth of the USA being a "free republic" needs to be debunked more vigorously.
Death of Florida Student
Comment posted by Anonymous on Fri, 05/16/2008 - 10:53amIt amazes me this young woman 23, with a college diploma --could be sucked in so easily by the police force to ''roll over'' on her connections.
This whole thing was WRONG ,the police .the woman, the gangbangers.
I believe there is more to it than they are saying.
Say Welcome to Our New-Nazi Leaders!
Comment posted by Anonymous on Fri, 05/16/2008 - 11:19amOne would think that we as citizens would become accustomed to this misappropriation of our police resources.
If McCain gets elected, it will definitely continue! Republicans have a Strong desire to rule America, and the World,
with their Iron Fists.
'America', in the eyes of the Republican Party, is just another "Bad Neighborhood" that
needs more police to ensure everyone is living within their rigid and demented vision
of Right and Wrong!
You know, the Republican's vision and attitude bears a striking resemblance to that of
Hitler's Nazis! And we all know what they were renown for. Is this just coincidence or a...
return of the "Evil Empire" with a 'new' face???
I have long believed that George W. Bush is secretly a Nazi!
Jack Grabit
To Mr. Jack Grabit
Comment posted by Anonymous on Fri, 05/16/2008 - 3:17pmYou may correct on some of the things you said but for someone who has such passion you should be worried about the other side of the fence as well. Dont be blinded by what the Right is doing the left is just as guilty. Wake up man, both sides fight about stupid shit while us the people who put them in office let them countinue to pervert our rights and freedoms.
Stop putting blame on one side and vote all these assholes out. None of them have us in mind at any point. I used to be Republican because I believed in what the grand old party stood for years ago but now their just as bad as the Dems in my eyes. Instead of listening to a bunch of code pink cunts actualy seek out the truth.
Ps Vote Libertarian.
Hitler said it & Bush thunks it!
Comment posted by Anonymous on Fri, 05/16/2008 - 12:30pmCare to guess which dictator said the following:
“I use emotion for the many and reserve reason for the few”
“What luck for the rulers that men do not think”
"The victor will never be asked if he told the truth”
"He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future”
"I do not see why man should not be just as cruel as nature"
"I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator"
"Who says I am not under the special protection of God?”
"The day of individual happiness has passed'
And my personal favorite: “Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it”.... the stupid ones anyway!
Billy B. Blunt
Tacoma, WA
P.S. What we need is a 'Green Panther Party' to protect ourselfs from the cops (criminals on patrol)!
Stop the Snitching
Comment posted by Anonymous on Fri, 05/16/2008 - 12:41pmI feel sorry she got caught up in the drug war fraud... but she should've known? You play with pigs they're gonna stink you up... then slaughter you. Don't know whether she got bad legal advice.... or none at all?
Just Say No to Snitching & Leave the Skullduggary to the professionals in law enforcement.
COPS = Criminals on Patrol
Billy B. Blunt
Tacoma, WA
Panthers
Comment posted by Anonymous on Fri, 05/16/2008 - 4:16pmBilly B. Blunt -- the green panthers have existed for awhile.
Don't look for justice
Comment posted by sicntired on Sat, 05/17/2008 - 4:51amsicntired@mac.com,Vancouver,B.C.Canada This has been going on forever and there's no way the cops are ever going to stop using people.The whole drug game is loaded in their favor and they don't mind letting a person get whacked as it gives them two made murder cases.It's all about the numbers and that's what you are to a cop.A number.They either put you in prison or they use you to put all your friends in prison until someone kills you or they just send you to jail too.People ,especially college kids have no idea who they're dealing with.These guys were probably on strike two and had nothing to lose.How can you expect a college age kid doing a little pot and ex to understand what she's dealing with.Sorry folks,no sympathy for anyone that expects others to do their time for them.It's a cowards way out.That there should be no such consequences for drug crimes is certain but under the system as it stands,you know where you stand,or you should.
Senator Prescott Bush...
Comment posted by Anonymous on Sat, 05/17/2008 - 8:15amGoogle him and find a true patriot...nazi! The apple don't fall, far from the tree.
A different take
Comment posted by Anonymous on Sat, 05/17/2008 - 2:45pmThe claim that a person can be "forced" to snitch is ridiculous. It's a choice. It's a negotiated contract to reduce your liability for a crime or reduce your sentence. It's dangerous, but the rewards are substantial - you take a risk in order to get something you really want.
The police do their job in the best way they know how. They enforce the laws. They don't write the laws. They don't vote on the laws. And they don't elect the people who do. We do that. This business of blaming the police for enforcing the law is absurd and makes those who do it look childish.
A DIFFERENT TAKE
Comment posted by Anonymous on Mon, 05/19/2008 - 4:19pmHow could you even say the person is not forced. They feel they are. No one wants to go to jail so what do you do ( snitch) The war against drugs has caused nothing for this place but more problems and alot of dead people. the cops are pigs they care about no one but themselfs.
murder
Comment posted by Anonymous on Sat, 05/17/2008 - 8:41pmits out and out murder commited by police .they should have the same thing happen to them or thier children
sick
Comment posted by Anonymous on Sun, 05/18/2008 - 10:44amEvery person has the right to make the decision whether to snitch or not when they are offered. However, cops will often use tactics of intimidation, lies, and false promises in order to sway someone into snitching for them. It is true that they don't make the laws, they just enforce them. Unfortunately, a large amount of people that go into law enforcement don't go into it because they think they can make the world a better place or anything (despite what they might tell others and themselves), but many go into law enforcement for the feeling of power. You don't have to do any work, and, if you are lucky, you can indulge your hyper-aggressive ego by beating up on a few people. The whole system is sick with greed. Whether you are talking about the war on drugs or tax laws or education or whatever, it all comes down to a bottom line. Police are trained to lie and cheat and do whatever it takes to get people to incriminate themselves or to do their job for them. It's a disgusting game of chess where if the police are pawns, then the poor saps like that girl from florida are like pawns of pawns. That's a dangerous place to be.
NWA had it absolutely right!
Comment posted by Anonymous on Sun, 05/18/2008 - 2:05pmNWA had it absolutely right!
Lawyer up, then SHUT UP
Comment posted by Anonymous on Mon, 05/19/2008 - 8:05amIf you are charged with a drug-related offense -- or any offense -- do not talk to the police!!! They are not there to help you. Ask to speak with alawyer and then take the lawyer's advice.
It is a crime that Rachel was duped into joining a police operation. She was duped. Her penalty for marijuana possession would not have been nearly so severe as losing her life over it. She was duped and the ones who duped her will get away with it. Don't let them do it again.
Cops in a town nearby (upstate NY) coerced a young man recently into joining a drug sting op. He had been chargerd with a marijuana violation, and now he is dead. Just like Rachel. Killed by drug dealers because he was conned by the cops into risking his life for no goo dreason.
DON'T LET THEM DO IT AGAIN!!!! LAWYER UP, THEN SSHUT UP!!!!
Apologies for the multiple post
Comment posted by Anonymous on Mon, 05/19/2008 - 8:08amMust have hit the button twice by mistake
Marijuanna
Comment posted by Anonymous on Mon, 05/19/2008 - 5:11pmLegalize Marijuanna... the war on this drug is stupid. It does little harm and could boost the United States' Economy
BANG! POW!
Comment posted by Anonymous on Mon, 05/19/2008 - 8:49pmI knew this kid who liked picking on smaller kids. He grew op to be a cop. Need I say more?
In Wisconsin a while back a
Comment posted by Anonymous on Tue, 05/20/2008 - 1:48pmIn Wisconsin a while back a good kid got busted with marijuana. And was coerced into making several controlled buys. Even after this the kid was harassed by a local cop who look it upon himself to remove drugs from the community. This cop made the kid do many controlled buys over a couple years. Other cops even told this cop that "enough is enough" but the cop persisted and eventually the kid jumped off a cliff to commit suicide. I know of atleast one good cop who quit the force becuase of this. Just goes to show what an immoral beurocracy can do to society. They even manage to "weed" out the good cops.
Unfortunatly most Americans are now afraid of the government and are afraid to oppose unjust laws. I know alot of people who won't join organizations like NORML becuase they are afraid that it may come to haunt them later or give the government a reason to harass them.
bush and mccain = one evil moronic genius
Comment posted by Anonymous on Wed, 05/21/2008 - 12:48amI was just pulled over last Saturday night in Florida on the way home from my cousins wedding when a pig pulled me over for not abiding by the new "move over law". which states you must move over to the middle lane if emergency vehicles are on the side of the road. the pigs abuse this.
I had 3 drinks the entire night, but of course got a dui. once they smelled the alcohol they searched the car and found a small bag of weed one of my friends must have left in the trunk for weeks.
I just spent 4500 for a good lawyer and expect to spend another 2k for dui school and etc if i get convicted. I just started a business and go to school full time. I pay my taxes but now risk losing everything I have because the laws are the way they are.
This country wants to imprison as many citizens as possible. they want to build more prisons and destroy familys and lives. They "the corrupt people in power" are the largest importers of illegal drugs. They same "corrupt" people go out and arrest their competition and buyers. Their friends own the prisons, drug testing companies, rehab centers.
The drug war fuels their personal paychecks through a huge system of law, prisons, and drug testing business. They pay the sheriffs and police officers for easy work and increased budgets. This is a system run by the people in power. Read about the Sembler Family; this family is tied to the Bush's, they own and operate a large drug testing company and child drug counseling centers.
Bush and Mccain do not care about the American people, the Iraqi people, or anyone else but themselves. They are greedy, evil men. They lied to us about the war. Bin Laden is still at large. They waste our taxpayers money fueling their prisons and drug war.
We need to stand up for America and join together and unite! They cannot beat us all. If enough of us (1,000,000) join together and march to capital hill and demand a change they will have to listen! How can they ignore a million people at their door?
How many more lives need to be taken for this greed and ignorance!!!!!!
end the drug war and start a war on american stupidity
Comment posted by Anonymous on Thu, 05/22/2008 - 6:04amhis drug war cost American tax payer billions of dollar a year just to bust a few potheads the government will never legalize pot for 3 reasons
1. very hard to tax
my opinion does the government have to tax every thing they cant tax it now because it illegal but if they set up regulated shops with a small tax and could undercut all street dealers who would buy drugs off the street but there losing out on income i know some you are thinking you can grow it so let us grow but shops should sell seeds and growing supplies also i believe there would by less violent crime because drugs don't have drugs to sell on the street and it also giving employment opportunities for people who have a green thumb to grow potent stains of pot it can be taxed i think marijuana has a Higher power than the government because it was here first and here long after the government is gone. so legalize it NOW!!!
2. makes to much catching so called criminals
people have a god given right to put they want in there body if there are adults the government needs to quit telling people what they can and can not to in the united states are constitution was created for that reason limited government power over the people if the government doesn't change it's up to the people to change it 1st amendment freedom to petition congress butt congress has it head shoved up each others a@# that they wont the government has become a corporate business and only cares about money and after petitioning congress doesn't work we as American have the right to revolt 2nd amendment
3. pain and simple they have to admit they where wrong
the government wont swallow there pride and do whats right and say were wrong and the people were right
Some how their Never wrong !!!!
Comment posted by Anonymous on Sun, 05/25/2008 - 2:18amAnd when they are will almost never admit it , Even when the dna eveidence is overwhelming they keep the wrong people in prison and act like Idiots, all drugs should be legal , They were for many many years before this drug war and will be again . We must start getting people to think of all the harm done from this war. It is far worse than anything the drugs could do! The moneys generated by the prisons isn`t something I want to do with my tax money. The people running them are shurly going to be a powerful lobby . It`s made gangs rich and vicous , police corrupt, politican`s , Well what can be said for them . We need better one`s.
Keep up the good work Dave
Take the cops to trial too,
Comment posted by Anonymous on Tue, 09/30/2008 - 1:23pmTake the cops to trial too, how can they think that this lady would be able to act as a police informant. Are they nuts? They obviously placed her in harms way. If in the process of a crime being committed and someone dies, the persons that was close by in the process like the cops that coherse and intimidated her into doing this job should be charge with the murder too.

















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Good Luck trying to hold any
Comment posted by Anonymous on Fri, 05/16/2008 - 10:26amGood Luck trying to hold any police officers accountable, every state in this country is filled with jackass'es with badges who can do whatever they want without fear of paying the consequences.
This DRUG WAR has claimed a young woman who to our distress will not be the last.